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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Most overrated players - Atlantic Division Most overrated players - Atlantic Division
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 26 @ 10:32 AM ET
Ryan - I'm enjoying the segments you're doing here. Fun and discussion worthy.

Trying to be as objective as I can here. What I believe Ristolainen to be is not only a specialist, mostly, but he's also a top 4 talent that has been horribly miscast. As the hockey world knows, the Sabres defense has been a collection of misfits for the better part of a decade. He's been forced to play way above his level his entire career here, despite his unrefined defensive abilities. The guy needs 2nd pairing minutes versus secondary talent, and needs a stabilizing, at home talent (hello Mattias Samuelsson, in a couple years) on the 2nd line with him.

So in all, the guy can score and he can shut down middling talent. His assignments make him look over rated, not his abilities. He's a 23 year old average defender who's great on the powerplay. There's room for improvement, but any intelligent Sabres fan knows exactly what he is, at this point.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 26 @ 10:36 AM ET
You nailed it with this list, man. Really well thought out selections

Ristolainen - all I can say is “amen”. Dude is awful

Ekblad - career trajectory reminiscent of Phaneuf. As a rookie, it looked like he was poised to rake in multiple Norris trophies. Now, he’s rarely mentioned among the best 20 or 30 dmen in the league

Zaitsev was a bargain in his first year, and then took a step back last season. Fingers crossed he can regain his old form
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:36 AM ET
o·ver·rate
ˌōvərˈrāt/
verb
past tense: overrated; past participle: overrated

- have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
Risto is bad/overrated ... so are the Sabres overall ... Can’t believe Boston gave that contract out to DB almost as bad as Kesler contract. And the Leafs with that Zaitsev contract ughhh he’s a fringe Ahl’r he makes more than Montour that’s laughable ...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 26 @ 10:46 AM ET
Boston: Marchand
Tampa: Stamkos
Toronto: Tavares
Buffalo: Eichel
Detroit: Everyone
Montreal: Price
Florida: Barkov
Ottawa: Karlsson
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 26 @ 10:46 AM ET
Risto is bad/overrated ... so are the Sabres overall ... Can’t believe Boston gave that contract out to DB almost as bad as Kesler contract. And the Leafs with that Zaitsev contract ughhh he’s a fringe Ahl’r he makes more than Montour that’s laughable ...
- dozerD10


The Sabres are overrated? Who thinks they're good? Sabres fans don't even think they're good.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:48 AM ET
Boston: Marchand
Tampa: Stamkos
Toronto: Tavares
Buffalo: Eichel
Detroit: Everyone
Montreal: Price
Florida: Barkov
Ottawa: Karlsson

- Rinosaur


mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 26 @ 10:50 AM ET
Girardi and Boedker don't seem like they should be on this list. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind rating them highly.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 26 @ 10:51 AM ET
Is Risto overrated?

The entire "smart" hockey world hates him and thinks he's trash. You can't be overrated when people think you're bad

Still glad he's on the Sabres. He does a little bit of everything. Guhle and Dahlin will raise the level of the d corps which should help him
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 26 @ 10:53 AM ET
Is Risto overrated?

The entire "smart" hockey world hates him and thinks he's trash. You can't be overrated when people think you're bad

Still glad he's on the Sabres. He does a little bit of everything. Guhle and Dahlin will raise the level of the d corps which should help him

- jcragcrumple


If anything, he's over rated by our coaches in part because he provides offense. And in part because no one is actually good enough to supplant him. And by the way, we're in 31st place.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
Leafs fans asked this when Komisarek, Kessel and Phaneuf were voted as the most overrated players in the NHL.

We were told, yes they can still be considered overrated.

Hope that helps.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
If anything, he's over rated by our coaches in part because he provides offense. And in part because no one is actually good enough to supplant him. And by the way, we're in 31st place.
- TheSabresTaco


Yeah, Bogo is always hurt, so the next two RHD were Nelson and Falk.

The dude gets a lot of hate, which is fine. He has to show he's better. If that's a move to the second pair this year, I'm fine with it. He could still have his play elevated by Dahlin.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
I can't defend Zaitsev's contract, but he's given top 4 minutes because someone has to do it.

The coaching staff isn't over-rating him. They just don't have a better option.
OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 05.09.2013

Jul 26 @ 11:08 AM ET
Thank god we have the option of putting Serg with McD. Serg switched sides really well in the playoffs.

Girardi should ride the pine.
Mino42
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philipsburg, PA
Joined: 08.10.2015

Jul 26 @ 11:17 AM ET
Boston: Marchand
Tampa: Stamkos
Toronto: Tavares
Buffalo: Eichel
Detroit: Everyone
Montreal: Price
Florida: Barkov
Ottawa: Karlsson

- Rinosaur

Wow that list is rough...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
Yes, the majority of people already think he's bad by this point. That still leaves Girardi overrated.
- Ryan_Wilson


mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:37 AM ET
I can't defend Zaitsev's contract, but he's given top 4 minutes because someone has to do it.

The coaching staff isn't over-rating him. They just don't have a better option.

- Atomic Wedgie


I remember Cherry saying he wasn't a defenseman during his first year. Sure hope he can right the ship. I don't think they gave him that contract though to be in the bottom pairing, he was meant to play top 4.
cragar77
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 06.20.2013

Jul 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
Good list.
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jul 26 @ 11:55 AM ET
Boedker over Ceci? Interesting
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 26 @ 11:56 AM ET

- jmatchett383


It's one of the classic blunders!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
Wow that list is rough...
- Mino42


Bunch of bums
warsawkid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: west seneca, NY
Joined: 07.02.2006

Jul 26 @ 12:09 PM ET
you are an idiot, risto is definitely a top 4 denfenseman, his minutes just need to be managed better
OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 05.09.2013

Jul 26 @ 12:21 PM ET
If I had the time and energy, I'd like to see how each of these players could be traded for another one on the list to find better fits for the players and teams.


... but I am reaaaaalllll lazy.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
Come on Jack Johnson! Mama needs a new pair of shoes!
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